Tuesday, November 11, 2008

Thinking Liberally w/o Nov. 4

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A few words about irrelevance

Aspiring Free-Republic-grade intellectual and SL Republican celebrity Ron Skytower sent me the following:
General - I was interested to read the various comments posted on your website about our debate. I do have to say that I'm astonished that most [That would be "all," Ron] of them seem to think that you won somehow! That is simply not the case [OK, Ron. I'm glad you cleared that up]... Would you like to do a rematch? 
I'll leave it to you all to decide who won the debate. Inasmuch as I had no time to prepare, my delivery was not as polished as Skytower's, but I think I pretty much tore Ron a new one. Like I said, you decide--if you can stomach Ron's long, tedious attempts to conflate liberalism with communism (complete with photos of Marx) and his assertions that Obama will make Miami look like Havana or Pyongyang (again with photos).

Don't wait to hear another debate, because there won't be one. There's no point to debating Ron and the rest of the lunatic fringe. Their rantings about Marxism, "islamofascism," "unAmericanism," "treason" and laissez faire economics are irrelevant to any serious political discussion in this country. Overton's window has shifted to the rational part of the political spectrum, where the reason-based community resides. The discussion is now between liberals and the so-called "centrists." Arguing with people who think Obama is a secret Muslim communist and the Earth is only 6000 years old is pointless. It's like debating a small child or more accurately, a male labrador retriever. No matter what you say, he'll continue to hump your leg, knowing with certainty that if he just humps long enough, your shoes will bear puppies. All you get out of it is a sticky leg.


Ongoing, Now through November 14.
Jazz & Art Festival, 2008
Art is displayed 24/7; specific jazz concerts at various times. Schedule available at Orchard Hall
Kerupa Flow is one of five featured Japanese Artists exhibiting their works in the 2008 Jazz & Art Festival, taking place at 9 unique venues in 4 Japanese Owned SIMS from now until November 14. Billed as the "Greatest Ever Musical Event in SL Japan!", Kerupa's work is especially well-suited for her venue - Halcyon: The Secret Garden.
Kerupa Flow - Japanese Artist's work now available for view at Halcyon: The Secret Garden. The Secret Garden is a gorgeous venue; a wonderful place to wander, explore and find beauty in your surroundings.
Orchard Hall, The Secret Garden and Other Venues

Monday, Nov. 10

Some of us danced at the Yak.

6 pm
Zath's Album Cafe
If nothing else good came out of the Resident's ignominious eight-year tenure, at least we have 2004's brilliant, anti-Bush, anti-war rock opera from Green Day, American Idiot. We were going to listen to this last Tuesday, but we were so busy celebrating Barack Obama's historic victory, we never got around to it! So join us at the Cafe Wellstone as DJ Zathras spins the album he has on "repeat" every election day.

4:00 pm
Social Injustice Discussion
Let’s discuss the election results and what we see as our post election world!
Social Injustice

6 pm
DJ Rocky and All-Wequest Wednesday! 

  Since Wednesday is the new Saturday for DJ Rocky, he's going to spin the tunes until he drops.  Russell's in England, and Serenity will be playinng Saturdays!

The Lonely Yak Roadhouse

Thursday, Nov. 13

7 pm
Dancing at The Boobie
Leandrah's Place

11 pm
Album Cafe - The Cars "The Cars"
Every Thursday a Wellstoner shares one of her or his favorite albums. This week, I'm hosting The Cars' self-titled first album.

If you'd like to host one of these for your favorite album (at the Cafe), let me know.
Cafe Wellstone

Friday, Nov. 14

7:00 pm
Dancing Liberally - Pioneers
On this day in 1889, Nellie Bly set out to beat Jule's Vern's fictional Fineas Fogg's 80 day circumnavigation of the Earth. She did it in 79. That was quite an accomplishment in itself for the time, but perhaps not as great as an accomplishment as that of a woman becoming a world-famous celebrity journalist at a time when women could not even vote. Let's celebrate Nellie's accomplishment and those of all the great pioneers and feminists of the past by dressing up in period or steam punk costume and dance our modern day butts of to DJs Rocky's and Jane's best tunage. Lindens awarded for best outfits.

DJ Zathras at the Twisted Wheel
The year:  1965.  The place:  Northern England.  The style:  Mod, baby, mod!  If you were at Zath's Album Cafe for the Who's Quadrophenia last month, you may remember Slate McLeod, Ace Face of the Second Life Mods, he of the brilliant scooters and fishtail parkas.  Slate has crafted a terrific 1960s-themed build, so dress up in your favorite Mod or other 1960s clothing style and come to the opening of Slate's club, the Twisted Wheel, to dance as DJ Zathras spins the R&B and soul that rocked the North Country (plus his usual eclectic mix, of course!).  It'll be a trans-Atlantic happening!  (If you want a place to start looking for Mod threads, try Carnaby Street at Ulreung 44, 184, 99; or check out Slate's new clothing store on his sim later in the week.)

7:00 pm
Pink Saturday 1: The Beginning
DJ Serenity will be doing the honours at the Yak since Rocky can't stay awake past 9 pm.  Fire our bosses!
The Lonely Yak Roadhouse

Sunday, Nov.9

Join us for 1 hour each week to learn new SL organizing skills to promote more SL activism
Alternate Weeks: Focus on "Basic Organizing" and "Large Event Organizing"

2:00 pm
Then DISCUSSION of the Show, World Problems, and Solutions. This will be a facilitated discussion and we will publish an abstract of the solutions that we envision! YOUR CONSENT TO BE QUOTED IS REQUIRED.

Dancing at Leandrah's
Come support Leandrah and her DJ, PB.

The Blue-Footed Booby Bar.

Movies at the Red Zeppelin
This Sunday the glorious People's Marxist Lennonist Cinema Project presents an investigative report on the decadent lifestyles of the Western Capitalist Elite: "High Society" starring Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, Grace Kelly and Louis Armstrong. Also part two of  Dr. Horrible's Singalong Blog and assorted shorts


the rev. paperboy said...

I'd say your analysis of the "debate" with Skytower is pretty much spot on. It was like listening to Fred McMurray explain where babies come from to the possessed chick in The Exorcist. Your patience was astonishing. Skytower seemed one step removed from speaking in tongues once he got onto "Marxism" something he clearly knows fuck all about.
Like you said, there is no point debating these people anymore. They lost and lost big. They are now as irrelevant as the Lyndon LaRouche crowd and the Birchers. Let them tread water in their own little sea of retarded doctrinaire thug fascism for the next eight years and see if they can find a grown up to lead them back to reality.

Ron Skytower said...

Dear Rev -

I must respectfully disagree about us conservatives being irrelevant. Sigh. Such liberal arrogance is truly an indication of how things will eventually turn out.

And, while I agree we lost big time, to semi-quote a famous movie line - "We'll be back." This of course will happen whether you like it or not because we have the truth on our side. You liberals have nada.

the rev. paperboy said...

Ron sounds more and more like a parody troll everytime I hear him. Liberals have nothing Ron? Just the White House and a majority in both houses of congress. Yep, nothing compared to the awesome power of Gush Limbo and the rest of the talk radio crowd and the abortion clinic bombing fundamentalist church crowd and the militias and the white supremacists and the rest of the modern know-nothing party. It isn't arrogance Ron, its reality. The grown ups are in charge again --don't worry, they will clean up the mess you're idols made, but its going to take some time to get the salt out of the earth.

rewinn said...

Reasoned debate has never been the reichwing's strength, purpose or strategy. It's all about persuasion, and as any salesdude knows, that is very rarely about "reason" as such.

In "The Political Mind: Why You Can't Understand 21st-Century American Politics with an 18th-Century Brain", neurolinguist George Lakoff proposes that our beliefs about rationality are simply wrong. We tend to make decisions first, and then use our massive forebrains to come up with reasons why we're right.

Ronsky and his ilk will never be persuaded by you, not if you have Steve Hawking, Isaac Newton, Jesus Himself and All The Choir Of Heaven backing you up. He's "debating" for the crowd ... And so should you.

The crowd wants to know who's stronger, smarter, funnier ... who's the preference of people like them. Your job is to demonstrate that it's you.

The beauty part of being in the fact-based world is that you can do that, AND be reasonable too. Even Obama's critics have to admit, he's pretty good at this, although Jon Stewart is even better.